one year on
Before OpenAI, Sam Altman was fired from Y Combinator by his mentor, Paul Graham
A Washington Post report reveals that Sam Altman's departure from Y Combinator was not voluntary, shedding new light on the relationship between the OpenAI CEO and his longtime mentor.
A Washington Post report published Wednesday reveals that OpenAI CEO Sam Altman was fired from Y Combinator by his mentor, Paul Graham, years before the founding of OpenAI. The story, which has rocketed to the top of Hacker News with over 1000 points and 700 comments, adds a new chapter to the narrative surrounding Altman’s recent ouster from OpenAI and his potential return.
The headline says Altman was fired from Y Combinator by his mentor, Paul Graham. In the days since Altman’s firing from OpenAI, Graham and YC co-founder Jessica Livingston have publicly voiced support for Altman, with Livingston retweeting that she was a ‘founding donor’ to OpenAI because she ‘believed in Sam.’
On Hacker News, the community is dissecting the implications. Some users see the pattern as evidence of Altman’s skill in navigating corporate politics, while others question the motives of Graham and Livingston, noting Y Combinator’s ongoing financial interest in OpenAI. The thread is filled with speculation, cynical takes, and quotes from Occam’s razor to H.L. Mencken, reflecting the tech world’s fascination with the drama at the highest levels of AI leadership.
Posted a link to an archive of the Washington Post article
Quoted Paul Graham's tweet saying 'No one in the world is better than Sam at dealing with this kind of situation' and Jessica Livingston's retweet about being a founding donor to OpenAI because she believed in Sam
Suggested that mature adults can think someone is not fit for one job but fit for another
Claimed to have met ruthless dark triad people who are successful but should never be worked with
Joked about Altman's morality with a reference to Arlo Guthrie's 'Alice's Restaurant'
Asked for elaboration on how dark triad traits play out
Speculated that PG's praise might refer to Altman being good at corporate knife fighting
Wondered if PG meant Altman is good at dealing with being fired
Agreed that Altman is good at handling media frenzy and drama of being fired
Noted that Y Combinator still has a monetary interest in OpenAI's for-profit corp
Said removing Altman from YC was better for PG and YC, but having him at OpenAI gets better returns
Pointed out that PG and Jessica have vested interest in OpenAI, so they can't say anything negative
Said YC policy is to not publicly denounce anyone associated with YC
Countered that endorsing Altman's side is different from not denouncing
Argued the simplest explanation is most likely true
Replied that simplicity is not virtuous if contradicted by reality
Quoted H.L. Mencken: 'For every complex problem there is an answer that is clear, simple, and wrong'
Interpreted Jessica's phrase 'founding donor' as trying to imply she isn't protecting an investment
Found PG's compliment unsettling, as it implies Altman excels at conspiracy and backstabbing
Said the compliment implies Altman is best at unethical, weaponized persuasion
Said at this level everyone hates everyone else, it's all politics
Argued it's counterproductive to take business conflicts personally
Commented that HN audience is inexperienced and runs from conflict
Talked about alignment of interests and values
Compared silent removal to how police departments handle rogue cops
Called that an astonishingly bad analogy
Said it depends on whether firing was about being spread thin or ethics
Said different concerns govern police accountability vs. corporations
Argued corporations can have life-and-death impacts
Listed various ways corporations destroy lives
Questioned if the user is familiar with the ACAB movement
Defended the comparison and questioned whether layoffs equal being shot
One year later — open only if you can handle spoilers
The Washington Post report added fuel to the ongoing debate about Sam Altman's leadership style and his relationship with Paul Graham. Within a week, Altman was reinstated as CEO of OpenAI, and the episode became a case study in Silicon Valley power dynamics.
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